Whose idea was separation of church and state? And because of this I rejoice. Unless you are being slanderous libel and defamation of character. He does need some time out [sorry, lol, seems funny, no pun intended] as he sets himself aside in repentance and prayer as to the Lord, but, sometimes we judge too harshly as if we know all things when it is God who knows all things. Dont blame the press. Like. I wan tho know ow long has he been having affairs Michael, if you have concret evidence that he committed adultery and was addicted to pornography can u provide any other details? Im off to bed. 12 And He will set up an ensign for the nations, and will assemble the dispersed of Israel, and gather together the scattered of Judah from the four corners of the earth. For weeks we have had to listen to bozos saying that we are hypocrites for saying certain unmentionable behavior is wrong while not dealing with this type. Moe #470, where was the church leadership teaching the women to dress modestly for church? However, Bob has disqualified himself, perhaps for the rest of his life, from the office of Pastor. We are sinners. Who is Kassanndra Cantrell? They know it is wrong of them to commit adultery if they are married, they know its wrong to steal, wrong to hurt other people etc and they know its right to give money to help the poor and they know its right to be a good Samaritan etc. Anonymous you mean CCFtl being Pre? Even more reason the transformation gospel is a myth. Everyone does that, just with different things. Flynn, what else have you learned from Chuck Missler and your Schofield Bible?. And continue to be fed where you are but continue to ask God to show you where you need to be. What happened at Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? When he made them laugh he had them. MLD, I do believe that satan is bound with a chain of some sort. Secondly the Bible will say adultery or fornication but fornication can include many types of different types of sexual sin, its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. A CCFL employee posted it on my blog and I started asking questions all over the place and then published the question. 5. You will always have the tow the line soldier types and they have their place in the body as well but if you want to grow in any aspect of life spiritual or other wise seek out those you respect and let them help you to the next rung a person of good character will be happy to share their life experience to build you up, those that criticize have nothing to offer in the first place. , ; , . Too much too soon. Michael just want you to know the Mark accusing you and positing other nonsense is not me the long time lurker/poster on this site named Mark who goes back many years with you. The case was thus closed and made "inactive" in October 2015 pending the victim's cooperation. The ones with the largest pledge or most generous givers, got a more intimate dinner with DC and BC. This will certainly be a season of emotional turmoil for CC Fort Lauderdale, as they lose their senior pastor. Funny how theres one standard someone has about bearing false witness to their buddy and another one for me. He should have been honest and asked for a divorce. Also, do you know that the powers-that-be removed numerous bushes that night from which the fatal shot was fired? and join the scoffers and Mockers, then you will know that Im not speaking Gods word to you! Some of Coddington's signature innovations were his custom-fabricated alloy wheels, typically machined from a solid aluminum billet, an industry first. just because others in the Body of Christ hold to different conclusions regarding aspects of theology doesnt require them to be wrong. well then go ahead by all means please cast the first stone. come now and get real it is plain as day, that if you really read the Bible with all your heart you would know that the mark of the beast is a bar code stamped on your forehead. Confession is step one. My family loves Pastor Bob and his leadership and every week he led hundreds to our Savior. Get over yourself. These pastors are lifted up and deified and made into celebrities, so then it becomes Bob Coys church Raul Riess church Greg Lauries church instead of the Church of Jesus Christ, and when these men fall the little gods we had erected fall and then we can hear God say, I am God and I am still on the throne!. Be strong and have Faith.. Everyone loves u and repentance will heal..prayers to u and your family. MLD, your Acts 2 interpretation is from Luther. I digress. So my position is one of total sympathy for Diane and the kids.and I find myself frankly in the conflicted position due to personal experience of being totally pissed at Bob for his selfish actions, and at the same time praying for his relationship to be someday restored with first our Lord, and Diane, and his tragically innocent children. And, I dont see anyone coming to the defense of his co-sinners why not all since you defend one of the sinners so vigorously? Not a witch hunt at all. He is being destroyed in the media and the usual covering has not been applied by CCCM. This sorrow proceeding merely from the fear of punishment, is called legal repentance, as being excited by the terrors of legal penalties, and it may exist without an amendment of life. Id just like to ask a simple question. I sin. How come pastor fidel gomez has not appeared since Bob Coy resigned? He could preach a Jesus message with a straight face on Sundayhaving done so much evil the Saturday before. I mentioned any fallen brother I dont care who it is, your Pharisaical attitude is what I condemn that emanates from your self righteous hypocritical stance that shows through once again as you try to put me in your box, sorry I dont dance your tune or fit into your little box! Tell me why you need to be the first w news rather than respecting the church body and unity of faith and respecting that as a congregation, we need to be together to receive our family update. Mary! All sin is equal. (may be a bit more difficult as I am sure his stuff would fill a yacht if it indeed does not already include a yacht.. Evidently the vast reach doesnt include responsibility to inform all those reached.. What sin are you guilty off?????? People who know what they are talking about get bored real fast. So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news. None of us are in a position to throw stones, judge, or cast aspersions upon or condemn himonly God can. Really? If he is not happy with the wife, divorce her first and then if you want to go spread your seed, go ahead. It scares me when I read he should still be the pastor. Anyone can read it and see what was said. And prior to my outcries there was at least an additional decade of no accountability for the same sins. Unlike many Protestant churches, which set up powerful boards of elders to oversee ministers, Calvary used a management style Smith called the "Moses method. They wanted spirituality but could never go back to their parents' churches. A core of my current belief system is that none are truly transformed when they are saved. 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Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future , Gomer MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way.. And we now have media Pastor?? In the Coy case, though, Payne never made that kind of headway. Sounds typical. The message to Nebuchadnezzar is however long it takes for you to learn who is the Most High God.. It is my empowerment. You have to turn blind eyes to the very world around you, and how ugly it is. I didnt bring him up. I hope in time Bob will have someone reach out to him as I have dear people and pastors reach out to me. The following day, the victim told the police that she was not ready to proceed with a criminal investigation unless a second person came forward. Coy is friendly and voluble, but his lively green eyes suddenly brim with tears when he's asked about the sexual assault claims. OK, here is my Luther disagreement we have different tastes in beer. this too I am speaking from personal experience. If I need to defend myself, I have documentation to prove every word. I did ask Bob about the female dress attire in the early 2000s I was told, we dont want to turn off a new believer by offending them. Ill say the amen. Please do not judge my pastor so harshly. Perhaps Michael or Alex could follow up with that and find out. It was masterful manipulation off the main issue. Nobody handed him the keys, he built this church. Now how a man can be considered a great Bible expositor when he teaches that its OK to take the Mark? As for your other questions well the answers from my point of view are complex and mixed. Bob, Anons #472 is absolutely true. In fact, at least eight pastors, staffers, and volunteers in Calvary Chapel's network around the United States have been charged with abusing children since 2010. Coys church is listed by Outreach magazine as the 14th largest church in the U.S., and one of the fastest growing. My goodness brothers & sisters!!! -- Give, Connect, Learn --Give | bit.ly/2ZUprZxI'm New | bit.ly/3kvFBAwMessages | bit.ly/3kzDStWUpcoming Events | bit.ly/3jg3N9W If this is all true theres a lot of lessons to learn here and maybe its time people started apologizing to Rick Warren who has demonized through the years. The vision of this church is multi-sites everywhere all under the umbrella of one man. Michael, I look forward to the upcoming week then as it pertains to reading what those folks working on those conversations have to say. I am sure he showered, put on clean underwear. Sorry, been in and outlong night on many fronts. Id think the body of Christ would be the most transparent of all bloggers! Its interesting Michael has yet to answer the question about his own sins. Make a one-time donation today for as little as $1. Anon, I cant really say how I know. The dicey part for this church is that there is a chance that some leadership people knew this was an ongoing problem for years. Thank you for the correction. Always til Eternity. E, that mindset makes your continuing sin worse as you then are aware of what you are doing is wrong but do it anyway. That is indeed, spiritually scary. You give yourself a severe disadvantage by doing so, whenever you are discussing doctrine with someone. Sometimes theres love and we become lovers for a time and sometimes its just sex for fun and enjoyment, so face the facts men by nature are not monogamous! http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-meagchurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter. (My friend and I agreed to disagree about Coys handling of Scripture..or, the lack thereof, deciding it would be best to study separately rather than keeping our yearly tradition of doing a combined study.) well obviously your information is wrong. My sources (multiple) are accurate. Yesvery important to kill the messenger. Bob Coy is a man.one of the main problems with sheep is that they start to put too much into the pastor, instead of putting it all on the Lord. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Messiah! or, There he is! do not believe it. Although Bob was a pastor of a mega church and held to a higher standard, he is still a human being, and human beings are flawed sinners. Too many people look at their pastor or sr. pastor, vs.the congregation being pointed to the Lord. How do you know that Isaiah is speaking of the millennium other than Missler or some other end times guru told you. Some of course did return volleys in kind, and that is unfortunate. And when teachings are propounded that God is through with Israel and that the Jews have been punished by God because of their rejection of Christ and that God has removed himself completely from Israel. God doesnt jugde nor hold this against him. What does numbers have to do with anything? Its in the public record that for working part time for Grace To You in 2011 he earned $402,000. Your pastorking has gotten caught. MLD In your desire to make the scriptures fit with your predisposed interpretation, youre assigning a secondary meaning that the text does not warrant, the text is giving us a period of time not a symbolic application as you are trying to assert. It was the Catholics then the reformed then the anabaptists to our modern movements of which CC was one, we shall have to wait and see what will be the next movement God raises, hey dont be so sad, CC had a good run, what was that like 50 years? You keep making claims that are revealing of your stature. David Jeremiah was right. Coy rented space for his church from a funeral parlor in Oakland Park and made ends meet by selling shoes while his wife worked as a waitress. I have prayed mightily for Bob, Diane and their two teenage children and I have prayed for all the saints. He teaches clearly that one can take the Mark of the beast and still be redeemed. In 2006, gubernatorial candidates Charlie Crist and Tom Gallagher personally pleaded for Coy's endorsement, though he declined. Andy, OK, you go with that but to hold your position you have to call Peter a liar in Acts 2. He's accused of molesting at least ten children aged 13 to 16 over several years, victimizing members of the youth group he led after taking them back to his apartment. One harsh standard for othersthen grace! and mercy! and not the same standard when its time for the pastor to pay for his sins. So Hugh, I think you and others twist scriptures right out of Jesus mouth to make a Hal Lindsey / Chuck Missler / Tim LaHaye point. God bless you Ft Laud peeps who drop in. Shouldnt these posts be cathartic? Im not amill, but that was a ludicrous statement. So what your all saying is your stronger than samson, you love God more than David and your wiser than Solomon. ok. I understand the severity of this. Bakkers son, Jay, wrote in 2001 that the Bakkers felt betrayed by Falwell, whom they thought, at the time of Bakkers resignation, intended to help in Bakkers eventual restoration as head of the PTL ministry organization. As a supportive friend, I have questions, too.. Whatever happened to preaching The Bible, and not ones own brand of The Gospel? everybody is broken by stuff like this. Hes too plugged in there. It is difficult to go to church and see this level of temptation going on. and someone from the OUTSIDE. Many people- even as of yesterday didnt even know he was gone. told you. She also said that while she had not confronted Coy yet, Coy had been "confronted by pastoral staff in Tennessee and is likely aware of the allegations at this point.". Is this what was meant or was Nebuchadnezzar telling them to get it as hot as possible? Lorenzo, You have an obsessive form of projection, as evidenced by your post here, from your viewing of pornography and thinking of other women while youre being intimate with your wife. a new church down the street] Against the dysfunctions of the church [ Why cant we all just get along? I Am His: Diane Coy. If Acts 2 is correct and the reign of Christ is a current event then the 1,000 yrs has actually been almost 2,000 yrs already. But the real power will be shown if within the church familys context, they watch a humbled Bob emerge and heal and discover God anew. She also acknowledged the forms that made clear her refusal to be kept on a ventilator in the event of a medical emergency. Diane Schuler, aka Aunt Diane, died in an accident. Why does the emphasis these days seem to be on altering The Message in a manner which appeals to the culture?. They dealt with BC finally, but apparently (alleged) child abusers can be overlooked. There are a lot of Calvary Chapelites out there that almost worship Bob more than Christ. I also sometimes am forgetful, as everyone can be, that I should have rejected the conversation after the first or second admonition of your errors. I have nothing that suggests what you just said is true. For its His word that does not come back void, but it shall accomplish the purpose for which He sends it!. Loss of respect. The problem is that he is human. #473, great post. Thanks Michael. There were ample cases to make that point. So yes we still sin after salvation as our flesh and spirit do battle and will continue to do so until the day we die. His fame went to his head. come now and get real it is plain as day, that if you really read the Bible with all your heart you would know that the mark of the beast is a bar code stamped on your forehead. I pray for our fallen pastor and his family and all of my brothers and sisters in Christ who are hurting. Sorry, youre a victim of the fallacy of false dichotomy. I completely agree with Michelle @175. NONE. Also, your link article suggests that we ought not make a big deal out of it cause he stepped down. This is a blog for scoffers, haters and mockers! A poor man has the few options left to him when she leaves him with his shame. I think I would be interested in other perspectives that the truth is part of the healing process. Pray for Bob and his family.He is only human.We are all sinners.The devil is hard at work all over the world.Follow Jesus.He will not foresake you. Why? The one thing Id point out is that like so many other CC he was always preaching about behavior as well as keeping our eyes on Jesus. Just answer the question! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amillennialism. Bob Coy did not address the congregation on Sunday. As an attendee of Calvary FTL I disagree. "If we go off the record, I could tell you a lot," he says. If it continues and endures it is Gods church and bigger than any one man to the consternation of the circling vultures of which this website is replete with! @MartinLuthersdisciple I have no sympathy for the adulterer. Instead, Coy drifted to his hometown's specialty: rock music. Founded in 1985 by Bob Coy and his wife Diane,. Bob Coy, founder of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale in Florida who resigned as senior pastor over moral failings in 2014, has been accused of molesting a girl when she was 4 years old and into her teens. Coy has to accept the consequences for his sin, as do we all, and certainly has put himself in this position and opened himself up to the public discussion about what should be his and his familys personal business.but thats not the point! From the camera shots of the kids in the audience-they werent buying it. They need our prayers. The blog host has spent the week publishing positive, restorative articles after the news broke. Coy became a key endorsement for local Republicans, including conspiracy theorist U.S. Rep. Allen West, whom Calvary hosted as a keynote speaker at a conference to train more than 100 local conservatives to run for office more effectively. Mercy should not be misused to render punishment ineffective for both. Heres a couple of zoning maps for pompano which shows the boundaries going behind the church on Old Mcnab Road. We took our kids out of the pool at 4 PM to make a 6 PM service. What is 1,00 yrs to God? Not by nickname, but by real name, facebook and email often even knowing each other in person when geography permits. Otherwise, at least he doesnt get rich off of Jesus and doesnt bilk people of their money and tows the moral line he lays down. He had other associate pastors go publicly in front of the congregation after their infidelity. And somewhere along the line, Coy slipped right back into his old life. It would also give her the opportunity to stop worrying as much. Calvinism and dominionism are two different things. he separates the sheep and the goats 3.) Some in the CCA and CCFTL have tried to make me out to be the one caught in gross sin and any opportunity to discredit me will be taken. Really? The enemy is now going to go to work and use this to do precisely what I see going on in this blog. I trip on all you. How am I sure there are details? finding out our churches and pastors had failings and unrepentant sin. Why? When we objectify we act as gods. That isnt my fault. There are a lot of conversations we need to haveand I have some folks working on those conversations for the coming week. dont know if this is what you were going for but.. Used to be able to go space8)space & get the smiley with sunglasses. It is not an easy process, but you will find one. The infallible Word of God, the sixty-six books of the Old and New Testaments, is a complete and unified witness to Gods redemptive acts, culminating in the incarnation of the Living Word, the Lord Jesus Christ. You have defended your right to report the story, which I cannot dispute, and have vigorously expressed that those who disagree are killing the messenger or throwing you under the busbut my point was not to indeed do such, but to state that, due to the lives that are affected by this story (his family), and yes, by his sin, which I do not excuse in any way, that it may not have been in good humanity or taste to have reported the story before the church did on April 6. Phoenix Preacher 2023. Lastly, if the assumption of some is correct (that Coy will re-surface soon..to be reinstated), would any mature believer out there choose to sit under the teaching of a re-cycled pastor in favor of a shepherd who will lead Gods flock with integrity of heart?
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