Key difference in thinking, and it makes all the difference in the big picture! Wait I havent watched season 4, nor will I ever after the stupidity that was season 3 But now shes a leader at the academy?! The message she is sending how? Oh, I think its fine they had a counselor on the SHIP; I just think its weird they had her on the BRIDGE. Shes a little overweighed, so what? It is also available on Netflix in 190 countries around the world. Tilly (Mary Wiseman) leads the stranded Starfleet cadets to safety. Having Tilly be one was justdumb. . I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. I would imagine those who liked Barclay probably include a large portion of those who like Tilly. DS9 Avatar books 1 and 2 were quite good and helpfully kicked off the DS9 Relaunch sequence. So her appearances ended up not being 100% awful. Thank you for your counter opinion. She only graduated from SA herself at the end of season 1. That finale appearance was basically a cameo. He has been part of the Litverse writers room run by Pocket Books and knows not only Beyers works but the books written by others in great detail, and across all eras. Mary Wiseman has established herself as a talented actor on Star Trek: Discovery. Good points. You cant be a Star Trek fan and also be a racist or a body shamer. Every Thursday night I yell Black Alert to let everyone know Im watching Star Trek. I would not say it isnt a valid creative decision to try this approach, especially in an age where we are emphasizing the need for self-care, its just not to my taste. Only showing up for briefings when that specialty was needed for that particular situation. Is her awkwardness all that different from Ezri on DS9? I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. Keep up with all the news and reviews from the newStar Trek Universe on TV at TrekMovie.com. Mary Wiseman is confirmed to return as Sylvia Tilly in Star Trek: Discovery season 5, although whether she rejoins the crew or continues at Starfleet Academy and only interjects occasionally remains unknown. Yes I forgot David Mack is a consultant on this show too and is well aware of all the post-Nemesis stories in the novels. Keep up the great work ladies! If you cant understand that message, then you are very much part of the problem. Someone with a lack of intelligence throws a race card at every debate. Tilly is not a perfect officer. WTF this is why Ive been following Star Trek since the original in 1967 when I saw Nichelle Nichols. This time, even if I wanted that, my body said: no were going to take some time here, we need to heal. And so, I find myself in this bigger, fuller body and it made me appreciate where I was before. No character like her would ever have graduated Starfleet. #StarTrekDiscovery #MirrorLandry pic.twitter.com/Ed0nbToiQH, Rekha the leaves (@TheRekhaSharma) December 19, 2020. I see them as similar. Its good to have ALL type of people/stories in our Star Trek Universe. And so she will be part of this universe and this world for many years to come. It was so fun. After all, it DOES seem as though Tilly is gone from the crew for the time being. And to have somebody step in and defend you is really meaningful. Barclay was another unrealistic character that never shouldve made it in to Starfleet. So when Tilly became a teacher I was like, freaky coincidence but perfect!). I realize there are people who like his quirks. Just more pandering. Like damn the guy's 90 ffs give him a break. It doesnt look like unhealthy curvy but just different type of genes. Have you ever read those? Star Trek is supposed to be socially progressive but this show went too far. If we dont have tolerance and respect, how are we able to learn and improve humanity!? 1:15. She is most recognized for her roles in the science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery on Paramount+, where she first played Cadet, then Ensign, and finally . Btw, I really liked the scene of Tilly and Burnham running back in S1 and eating protein, carbs and fat post workout. Everybody loves is an idiom, it should never be taken as a strict statement. )Granted, I think the special effects, space battles, bizarre technology and explosions are the proverbial tail wagging the dog, but thats always been the case, and is increasingly expected in these post-Star Wars, high tech decades. Michelle Yeoh, considerably smaller in physical stature, probably weighs around 90# [because she is allll muscle]. all the outfits here are golden IMO but those shoes murder! But of course this being Star Trek they SPOILER ALERT bring her back to life! From the next episode on season 3 which was at least okay up to that point started to completely fall apart. As long as the stories remain laser-focused on the *people* their *relationships* and the *emotions* generated therein, instead of ships, gadgets, and effects, well be fine. Episodes will be. For what its worth Picard has an excellent cast, male and female, it just feels they are one or two notches above their discovery peers, maybe again due to writing/direction. Unless you want to count Ezri Dax she was a therapist but I dont believe she heald a high ranking command position. Thats not a leader. Sonequa is by all accounts probably the best or one of the best chef de compagnie of all the Trek series. First of all, because theres more options for cosplay now, because she changed her hair. Btw have you come across any good DS9 books about what happened to Sisko or the rest of the crew after the finale? When Mary Wisemans Lt. Sylvia Tilly left the USS Discovery for a job at the new Starfleet Academy in the fourth episode of season four, it was promised she would be back. I hope were able to explore it because theres potential for great levity, but then also really important conversations to be had because when you care about someone you dont want to see them go through pain, and I can see completely how Tilly will be very protective of Michael Burnham. None of those thinks make a lick of sense. . Was that really a Betazoid characteristic or was she just reading faces and gestures? Miss Wiseman F those fake Trekkies/Treksters keep acting your ass off. I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. I also know hes basically your favorite Trek author. Sorry TM, its MY fault! But then again Im not a troll. If anything is being celebrated, or, at the very least, encouraged, its simple human decency and not judging people by physical attributes alone. Well said, Edward. Smart doesnt mean competent. Well, its certainly a good thing that Tilly is a fictional character, and neither she nor the woman who plays her (Wiseman) is in todays real-world Navy.. Thats a refreshing thing for Berman Era Star Trek, when characters tend to be more reserved and the dialogue is highly stylized and precise. In fact most iterations of Trek the actors have provided a neutral delivery of their native accent. Originally I imagined him as Denzel Washington or Blair Underwood, but after belatedly watching The Wire and Luther I think Idris Elba would be a really good match. That does so much emotional damage to a personbut it also says a lot about those doing the body-shaming. KevinB: I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is.. 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We have both Mary Wiseman and Sonequa Martin-Green talking about body issues, Kate Mulgrew jumping in too, and some more behind-the-scenes photos. (Hey, Im likely one of the oldest people here, and its too easy/lazy to remain stuck in the 1960s and 70s! I personally have battled weight issues all my life since high school and when I am eating healthy and trainng hard, I feel great and can do almost anything (power skating, fast hockey, tons of physical activity) meanwhile the opposite is true when I let myself go (and that does happen). Have to completely agree you T2. Other ships having counselors in the TNG era was mentioned. I echo your sentiments exactly, David. Just mentioning few of their values. The episode, titled "All Is Possible,". Tilly accepts herself but she rises to challenges, leads in a crisis, is there for her friends but still explores what she wants for *herself*, and mentors others to help them grow! I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. Tilly once thought being captain was her biggest dream, but after a . I believe we can thank Mack for helping the Showrunners and writers identify species that would work in Prodigy and for some deep cuts. Im glad we are finally seeing it. The actress also discussed how Killy inspires some fans: Killy is somebody whos very important to a lot of fans, especially my curvy women out there who like to see another full-figured, fat, curvy, chunky woman get to feel powerful and use that size to command authority, said Wiseman. She would have flushed out of SFA in her first year. Ive seen people here and on other message boards body-shame Ms.Wiseman, and its disgusting. She is one of the best things about Discovery. Harry wasnt annoying watching him was just sad :-D. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. And Books starshipthink of it as Star Treks answer to the Astro Megaship from Power Rangers in Space. Diplomacy? I suppose thats why some places are rising and others are very visibly in decline. Funny enough, I have never had a problem with Wesley. The U.S.S. Right! The doctor was usually the therapist. Story: With . Some of us dont grasp the very basic foundation of what Star Trek is all about!? They have solved some of these issues the easy way by talking themselves out of it (Klingon hair, holograms, Ariam being no android at all), now that we are in the future none of it really matters anymore. Shes not going anywhere. If you read what Mary and Sonequa are saying, they arent promoting any particular body style or fitness choice, just that they are as they are and only they have the right to choose how that should be. It is not yet known what role, if any, Wisemans Tilly would have in the upcoming season, with possibilities ranging from guest or recurring character to becoming a series regular again. I assume my feelings towards them are what Wesley-haters endure. So many jerks in this world, its good to see decent people. For your own good, please seek help. the only one worth saving.. quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history. Then that very well could be something for not just women but everyone to aspire towards. I think Mary Wiseman is a fantastic actress..the writing for Tilly is an abomination. Wasnt it Saru who made Tilly the First Officer? I think the ship can handle a little chonk. Stupid decision to bring her back. Since season one, Tilly (Mary Wiseman). Has Tilly body-shaming outside of the Twitter imbeciles been a thing? Of all the issues I have with Star Trek Discovery, Mary Wiseman/Tilly is definitely not among them. In fact, thats all the Discovery crew is qualified as in the 32nd century. Waste of talent. Being encouraged to eat only what ones body needs is another thing entirely. Right? Yet, she is. That sucks, but that is just the way it goes. I realized that unless I wanted to deal with health issues like hypertension, diabetes and other medical ailments, I would have to eat less and less as I got older and older. Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. Sad but true, yet we always opt to genuflect in the direction of the elephant. There is also the issue that a crew needing constant therapy sessions while regularly saving the galaxy is not an easy narrative trick to pull off. You know what, fvck you, Vulcan Soul. Tilly got fat, that is inexcusable. A person who we see strive to make themselves a better person. Heaven forefend women feel good about themselves! What accent? Just blows my mind. Ichebs torture on Picard was horrible and the eating ganglia in S1, yikes! I just wonder if maybe they are adapting the basic idea to what we are seeing in Prodigy since the Protostar couldve been part of the Full Circle program and was sent back to the DQ for a specific mission? It is their choice to be as they choose to be, and their responsibility to deal with the pros and cons of whatever fitness choices they choose. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. I notice that for whatever reason certain words will trigger the language to switch to French on my phone, and then I have to go back and correct everything. I have to agree. Thats a crumpet I want to butter. [laughter], David Ajala as Book and Sonequa Martin-Green as Michael in episode 401 Kobayashi Maru. She cant control her weight. And I belong., After reading the Forbes article, Wiseman got some backup from someone who knows what its like to be a woman in the captains chair: Kate Mulgrew, who thinks Mary is killing it on Discovery and should pay the haters no mind., I saw the @Forbes article on Mary Wiseman @may_wise clearly killing it onscreen & off in #StarTrekDiscovery. Overcome her issues. Perhaps they had a second or third language that they use regularly. That was an awfully fast turnaround. And we saw the results of all that. DSC has a wonderful cast and a neat diverse set of characters. Thats the thought I had last season, when they had the perfect chance to wirte out Burnam (I believe it was Reunification III or the one after that) and they just didnt follow through at the end. I wasnt complaining there were therapists on board. The door is open, I suppose, if that show should fail for some reason, but I doubt theyll just throw her back into the same role on the ship like nothing ever happened. Its been a continuing book series since 2009 and still going. But how the women look?! Unfortunately PICARD turned out to be set in the same period, so it derailed my plans, although later I did figure out a way to explain the considerable differences in the Prime Universe. Maybe not but what are your thoughts? Thank you, Trek Movie Staff, for sharing my interview with your readers and providing a link to Forbes.com! Hahahaha! My point was Why does the ships therapist have a bridge station? David Ajala: Legit, its still very palpable here. Unity? Great interview, Dawn. I dont understand this at all. My point is, a lot of the shamers are probably ashamed of themselves for being overweight and project it onto others. A Stitch in Time kicks off the Garak/Cardassian books and is excellent. I agree with you on principle as far at this being fine on a fictional Star Trek show. Its very likely shell be on the Star Fleet Academy show if she continues as a regular/recurring character on a Trek show. I think criticism of the actors is wrong as well, its not about the actors its what they have been told deliver. She is a real girl. And I want to take care of me so I can continue to be me. Many smoke to keep the weight off. The Relaunch Litverse books for DS9 are uneven in my reading experience as compared to the TNG and the Voyager books once Beyer took over. Discovery may have just said goodbye to one of its crew, but don't worry: She'll be back. Finally, Starfleet isn't a military organisation or an army. Patrick Kwok-Choon is the only one of the bridge officers that doesnt have another regular acting or producer/director role. Let it die. Just grow up and ignore the random internet comments you are elevating the drama of this internet troll thing by talking about it. Therefore, I love her. Maybe sociological issues? It is constantly exposing the never ending struggle of smart and talented woman of color. Tilly appears twice in the Star Trek: Discovery season 5 trailer. Yes! | March 22, 2022 | Youve got to hand it to Harry Kim. Sonequa Martin-Green in Unification III, Co-showrunner Michelle Paradise shared some behind-the-scenes photos from Terra Firma, Part 2.. After they wrote her to be the most annoying person possible. By: Laurie Ulster I dont love her the way I love Saru or Pike, or Janeway or Seven or Picard or Spock. Ridiculous or not, it has been well established in Trek canon that starships have counselors/therapists, and they are often used by the crew. Can Picard go round the sun once more and rescue Saru from Discovery? Its this kind of nonsense that ruins Discovery. This show has been for a niche of Trek fandom not the mainstream. The audience is growing due to our amazing loyalty, but I give them credit toobecause Discovery, we have all these new shows. I feel bad saying this but Ive never a read a Star Trek novel in my life lol. Everybody loves ., meant literally, is never true. David Ajala: Ive never thought about that. However, the problem with Tilly (and this really is more of a Star Trek Discovery problem because it exists with every character they do this to) is that she never made strides or attempts to improve. I always felt that I wanted hips and a butt. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. She opted that she had a different calling within the world of teaching and, in the end, she decided that she wanted to chase that feeling. Tillys journey has helped me over the last few years. Took time to reset the franchise. Theres a little Harley Quinn. That is not anything to diss. No character like her would ever have graduated Starfleet. Too nervous and anxious. I read somewhere that Gates McFadden and Marina Sirtis had somewhere in their contract a stipulation that they had to fit into their costumes. Up ahead, we explain what happened to Tilly in the recent episode and also discuss actor Mary Wiseman's status on the show. Mary Wiseman is a good actress but even with that, if Star Trek Discovery was shot in 80s or 90s producers would probably force her to go on a diet or even fire her. Tilly is part Wesley Crusher and part Barclay. You misunderstood. I understand the actress is very well-respected and a nice person, but I couldnt stand the Tilly character myself. Watch as SFX makeup transforms Doug Jones into Saru for Star Trek: Discovery. CBS/Paramount+ For Wiseman's Tilly, the danger and near-loss of all the cadets, including Adira (Blu del Barrio) forces her. I dont believe any of the other series had a therapist on the bridge. And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, From future Starfleets POV, thats 900 years! Troi made explicit the evil intent lies we tell each other and ourselves to gain selfish material and political advantage. Thanks for the correction and yes that is correct. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. Ive re-learned through life experiences how to stop and smell the roses again you might say, among other things. Hes been very creative in using callbacks and interweaving eras in his own work. That way she wont get the appearance she does now of jumping over more experienced officers and seeming to just get ahead because shes Sarus favorite. As you put it: I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. And I agree wholeheartedly. It is incredibly bad and is a publicly dangerous message to be sending. That is assuming the this Starfleet Academy show is set in the 32nd century. Something happened to Tilly (Wiseman) and Bryce (Rowe). Her empathic abilities work via viewscreens? Let's get into the details of the actress's weight gain, which has also been linked to her pregnancy. Sure, its not perfect, we all have a nitpick here and there, but as long as it has a message, it revolves around people, and some cool science stuff, its trek to me. She wears 36D bra size and weighs 147 pounds. She is perhaps, the most human character on the show. I gave this dumpster fire of far left propaganda 4 seasons. Just a heads up (even more way off topic), for those who liked SG , IMO the Atlantis book Legacy series was quite good, telling the story of what happened after the finale. Between 2011 through 2015, she attended Juilliard School's Drama Division, where one of her students was future Star Trek: Discovery actress Mary Chieffo. I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. I cant stand any sentence (especially related to DSC) which starts off with Everybody loves Its never true. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. Where I live people compete on the merits and are proud of their professional or intellectual achievements not their bad habits, bad health or even born with attributes such as divergent sexual orientation that they had no influence over whatsoever. Correct me if I am wrong, but did she not have to take a command course at some point? Sincerely, obesity is defined in terms of the proportion of body fat associated higher risk of illness. For me, generally speaking, when Barclay or Trois mom appeared it signaled a terrible episode in advance. You are correct, it comes down to the same thing, poor plot development. Its not SMGs fault of course, its just the way she has be written throughout the series. This is why Discovery is polarising and this is why people four seasons in still dislike Burnham and Tilly as characters. Good for her, and I love the character! Regarding fans, tons of them love Tilly. Im not surprised people making mean comments, some people will find whatever they can that they know will upset everyone and say it. Samarkand? Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back. Its could have (or couldve). As an actress and a person I dont mind her at all, shes lovely. I dont see a repeated notion that DISCO saved Trek by heavily incorporating emotion into their characters. SuKal accidentally blowing up all warp ships thats another instance of Trek being intwined with my own life So you offend S3 of DSC, you also sully the memory of my mum and EVERY mother that ever died. This modern trend of celebrating obesity is what is wrong with American society, and is another reason why the rest of the world laughs at America. Weight Gain Explained Rumors are going on that Mary Wiseman is pregnant and she has gained weight. But its the elephant we have in the room, these days. Any accent would be acceptable for a time that hasnt happened yet. Heck I think it was more unrealistic when some chick was upset he wasn't ready for sex. Nice girl but still jostling with Burnham as the most annoying character on the show.
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